The first time, I was the subject, so I wasn't really looking at a precise clock, but it was probably three minutes, since it went pretty well. The second time, I was the psyncer, and it was a little riskier—five minutes.

[She slots her thumbs together and shrugs.]

Maybe our virtual worlds, dream or not, really are something different from the scale of Allen's place or this place. ... [lightbulb clicking] Do you think that there could be a chain of dreams in this place too? Like the other rooms Sasaki-san drew?