WEEK 2

[whimsicalism]

The first week at the castle passes without any (recent) murders. Mysteries were found, questions asked, bonds formed, and Halloween celebrated. Now as Sunday 'dawns', you might feel your mind a little lighter as your first memories fade. Will this be just a week celebrating the (questionably) best thing about October or will more sinister things be afoot?

Either way, it looks like the Alices will continue their game.

Sunday | Monday | Tuesday | Wednesday | Thursday

[Hello, and welcome to week 2! Don't forget to submit your memory losses here and your activity here. If you want to ask or annoy the twins you can do so here. As always, don't forget to turn your threads in for 'fabulous prizes.]

Comments

[littlebratziska]

Something worth knowing is that Alice is having doubts. I talked to her, and she doesn't seem as sure of herself - she still seemed upset about it today. Did you hear her say that unfortunately the "game" was still running?

[strictura]

They've been saying all along that the game is necessary for her wish, and that they wouldn't be doing something that hurt children if that weren't the case. Obviously that doesn't make it right at all and we still need to put a stop to it, but I think she's always at least been conflicted about what she's doing.

[littlebratziska]

You're clearly missing the point. If she already feels conflicted, and this is only being done on her orders, then perhaps we can convince her to stop, if we make her doubt herself and let her know this can't be justified.

[strictura]

I'm just saying that she's always felt conflicted about this, so while continuing to wear her down that way may potentially be successful, it also may not be, because she wasn't really under delusions that she was doing the right thing in the first place. She's already weighed her options and decided that this was worth it even though it was hurting people she didn't want to hurt.

[imozon]

That doesn't mean someone couldn't still change her mind. Especially if doing it this way is getting harder for her.

[strictura]

I just said it was possible. I also explained why I wouldn't necessarily bank on it.

[imozon]

I just think we should keep trying.

[littlebratziska]

And we can make it harder for her, by bringing it up.

[imozon]

So... we'll be mean to her?

[littlebratziska]

No... if we're just mean to her, there's no reason she would have to listen to what we say.

All we need to be is honest, and make sure she knows that this sort of game isn't good, and isn't any fun. Tell her you don't want to die, and don't want to kill people - that's what she feels bad about. Just being mean won't do anything.

[imozon]

So we'll just make sure she knows what we think and how we feel, then. I think I can do that.

[littlebratziska]

If everyone does tell her that she's making them kill people when they don't want to so that she knows that she's the bad guy here, and that she can stop it, maybe she can be convinced to change. It's not much to go on, but as far as I know it's as good a place to start as anywhere we have. And it's not as thought that will stop us from anything else we've been doing.

[imozon]

Actually, doing everything else too might make it work better. If what they're doing isn't working anyway...

[littlebratziska]

It may. Either way, if we can convince Alice to stop the game because she doesn't want to be the bad guy and forcing people to fight, or we can find another way out, both are fine if one of them works, right?

[littlebratziska]

You didn't hear the way she broke down, I take it. She has not at all resigned herself to making others take lives, as far as I could tell.

[battlestations]

Don't look so happy about making a kid cry.

[like, he gets it, but sheesh.]

[littlebratziska]

Her age has nothing to do with it. Anyone who hires an assassin is just as guilty as the assassin, after all, and in effect that's what she is attempting to do. Murderers deserve no consideration!

All I've been doing is making her consider that. Hopefully it works, but the worse she's made to feel for trying to make people kill each other, the more likely she is to realize that's not an acceptable way to behave.

[battlestations]

Or it'll be a way for that wicked cat to sink its claws deeper into her because her other 'friends' are so mean.

[ballooncaged]

Do you think that Lillie and the others made out like putting them through five weeks of a twisted game was "acceptable"? Did they just say "you're still our friend" as she disqualified them?

I can't forgive either of them for what happened, but I haven't met any criminals who gave it all up after someone was mean or nice to them.

[battlestations]

It's not that I think we should be totally nice to her...

[like he made her cry day 1. that was a thing]

I'm just saying, she's being thoroughly manipulated by someone she puts more faith in than any of us, which is a disadvantage for tactics like this.

[ballooncaged]

I agree... [The comment order was A Way but she really had way more of a problem with Franziska.] I think we just have to look at this from the perspective of what the past group would have tried. The Cat... is her family. If she could get a new Servant it might be different... but it can't possibly be as simple as "killing's not fun". Otherwise there wouldn't be stuff like "Alice's Glass Game".

[soverainty]

It's all really complicated...

If we convince Alice-chan but she can't convince Alice-tan, then we lose, and if we convince Alice-chan but Alice-tan takes that away with memories, we still lose. [a little sigh as she keeps going] And if the players who used to be here were disqualified for trying something like this, then we've really lost.

[It all sounds kind of a mess when you put it that way, and she seems to realize that after a moment, pulling back sheepishly.]

N-Not that I think it's hopeless. I just think everyone is right -- we can't just think we can solve everything just like that. But if we try nothing, then we still lose, so. Maybe the castle will be on our side...?

[littlebratziska]

That's why we shouldn't be mean, just honest. All I've done is let her know she's in the wrong for what she's doing. It upsets her, but she can resolve that by stopping what she's doing.

[ballooncaged]

Ooooor by killing you arbitrarily.

[littlebratziska]

That still won't take away what I've already said. If she's smart then she already knows that, but if she not perhaps I'll decide to stay here and haunt her until it does!

[She doesn't have a death wish or anything but is also not even slightly intimidated about the potential consequences of sharing her mind like this.]

In any case, if everyone else decides to press her with me, then she won't be able to stop things without killing everyone. We'd all prefer that not happen, but if we don't do anything she is going to have everyone killed one by one anyway. I'd much rather do what I can to convince her to stop this than meekly wait for death.